Article Search

 Alleged 'whites-only' police bar slammed
    March 04 2009 at 06:37AM Get IOL on your
mobile at m.iol.co.za

Submit your comment

By Poloko Tau

Gauteng Police Commissioner Perumal Naidoo has been asked to explain why three boys under the age of 18 were drinking at the police staff bar at the Lyttelton police station in Centurion last Friday.

And he came under fire from the provincial legislature over the existence of a "whites-only shebeen" situated on the premises.

Naidoo, who had come to present the provincial police's performance report to the portfolio committee of community safety, found himself faced with more grilling than he had budgeted for on Tuesday.

'I call this bar a shebeen because members of the public were there'
Taken to task by a visibly annoyed portfolio chairperson Jacqueline Mofokeng, Naidoo was also quizzed over the apparent racial admission to the pub.
Continues Below ↓





This follows Mofokeng's surprise visit to the station on Friday after complaints from the community.

"I call this bar a shebeen because members of the public were there and it was chaotic, with loud music being played. I have a problem when a club is turned into a public facility and happens to be whites-only," Mofokeng said.

"We were told that black people have been attacked in the past at the pub, and there were none present when we were there on Friday."

Mofokeng said other stories of racism had been alleged, and these had also been passed on to Naidoo.

'We cannot keep racism going'
She also complained about how she saw drunken patrons leaving the "shebeen" after the station commissioner had ordered its closure. "How do we get people to be locked up in cells for drunken driving while some leave the police station drunk and drive?" Mofokeng asked.

Naidoo has promised to look into all the allegations and promised to deal with all other ill-disciplined police officers.

In their report, Gauteng police reported a decrease in attempted murder, aggravated and common assault as well as rape and attempted rape from April 2006 to the end of 2007/08 financial year.


Continues...


Email StoryPrint Story
BOOKMARK THIS STORY
Social bookmarking allows users to save and categorise a personal collection of bookmarks and share them with others. This is different to using your own browser bookmarks which are available using the menus within your web browser.

Use the links below to share this article on the social bookmarking site of your choice.

Read more about social bookmarking at Wikipedia - Social Bookmarking

muti
Showing page 1 of 5 comment pages, 44 total comments
48 Weeks ago pixie wrote :
1. I also live in Centurion, and have also visited said "shebeen". Under NO circumstances is this a "whites only" place.
2. I would think that the reason for whites only being there is that it was after hours and that transport is a problem for most people these days.
3. MOyahabo - great idea to swop schools...one question, will the black kids going to the schools in towns/cities for 6 montsh be able to keep up with the standards for which we pay R550.00 min per month school fee? No grants for us...
48 Weeks ago JackD wrote :
I live in Centurion as well and I must say every time I had a complaint & the Lyttelton Police Station had to be called in, I received the most professional service. At state canteens as above mentioned there is rules & regulations as if in any other pub, club, tavern, shebeen. There will be no on duty Police officers in a pub like that & I know that they are not even allowed if they are in there to carry their firearms with them. Remember one thing there was a lot of civilian People there as well, so for Lennon please focus I am not sure if you went to the Army but they also have their own Canteens & Pubs on their premises where civilian people are also welcome the same as the Police Pubs, try to find out both sides of a story before you make your own accusations! There are over 50 state Pubs & canteens in Gauteng, why only try to make one look bad? What is happening about the other ones in the area? As for Jacqueline Mofokeng why didn't she stop the drunk persons who drove from the station or call the necessary people like the Police officials who was on duty that evening, the SAPS can also lock you up if you are driving under the influence, believe me! I think there should be some investigation done on how she is doing her work cause if she can let so many people drive away under the influence how many other is she going to let go next time, & what happen if she catch people who committed more serious crimes? Are she also just going to look at them drive away? If people have problems with authority they should sort it out themselves & not try to make a whole good thing "SAPS" look bad, grow a pair & speak to the person you have a problem with and sort it out in that way. At least the SAPS still try to make a difference & if you are in trouble who do you call first? I don't think everyone remember this, trouble & you called the SAPS they will respond as fast as possible putting their own life’s at risk just to go there at high speeds & they don't even know you. So keep in mind that there is still some good people outside, not everyone should be judged under the same camp!
48 Weeks ago Facts wrote :
This is a joke. Please read the article!! it was alleged that patrons of colour was attacked and alleged that minors was drinking!! nowhere in this article is anything stated as a fact!! in the Beeld the portfolio chairperson Jacqueline Mofokeng states and confirms that non of the minors was drinking alcohol. has any one checked what the liquor law states about minors in a bar!! no..... they are allowed to be in the premises, just 3 meters away from the counter!! another fact is that this visit was politically motivated. it was arranged by senior members that have personal issues with senior staff at that station and now they look for anything to make a race or political issue!! fact, lots of the black members has made use of the canteen before. The night in question only white people were present now its a whites only bar/shabeen! Fact, if the portfolio chairperson Jacqueline Mofokeng was so passionate about the drunk patrons driving, why did she not phone the Metro or even better ask the two senior police officers with her to stop the people from driving, did they not have a duty to do so? No, the plan was to make a media spectacle about it in order to play the racial card!!!! Was a crime committed that day, I don’t know, but I’m sure the portfolio chairperson can arrange for an independent committee to look in to it and write about the findings in the media so we can all get the FACTS and stop making assumptions and start a racial comments forum!!! Look at the Facts people not the colour of the skin!! PS: if you have problem with the spelling or grammar……get over it!
48 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
I have read everyone's comments and how this article has now presented a forum of voicing racial issues each individual has. What is bothering me is the fact that you get 'police staff bars'. I mean what the hell is that? Is this part of a therapeutical programme for troubled cops to go and unwind? Pardon my ignorance but to me this is the real issue and the fact that under aged people were drinking in this 'police staff bar'. Is this a norm?
48 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
What's the problem? Hell is also exclusively reserved for whites.
48 Weeks ago Lennon wrote :
How can anyone in Lyttelton trust their local police officers if they're getting plastered at the station? Why has the station commander not shut it down?
48 Weeks ago  wrote :
To MOyahabo - you obviously don't know what you're talking about (Judging by the place names you have). Why don't you rather go do proper research before telling such lies.
48 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
I live in Centurion, had to visit the station a couple of times over the years. These "allegations" are probably an attempt to get rid of the last whites there, because they still do their work and are a hindrance to the "activities" of the other members. It's vrot all the way up to the commissioner, no wait, the minister. E.g. the member who inspected firearm safes in private homes for licence purposes, then was PROMOTED when it was found he supplied the info to crime syndicates. Just 1 example of many.
48 Weeks ago  wrote :
Wether u are black or white ,if you do wrong its wrong , lets us stop this racism which clearly appears pervasive at the police station and i say lets i mean both black and white. , like it or not we need each other to build this wonderfull country. those that believe that other races are superior or inferior to others must be extermintated from this country
48 Weeks ago MOyahabo wrote :
It is going to take a few centuries until we are able to talk about a persons faults/mis-conducts without looking at their race. It is all good for our White brothers to be philosophical and expect the rest of the Non-Whites to live in harmony and stop bringing back the past, however they themselves do not forget that one is not white. Travelling to neighbouring areas away from JHB is enough proof that some white folk seem not to even know that Mandela is out of prison, go to the Vaal, Krugersdorp, PTA, Mpumalanga, Free State and majority of the areas outside Jozi and you will seee for yourself that it would be naive of you to expect one to see past the race issue. So no white person has a right to expect Blacks not to always look at the race issue, because you sure as hell can see that we are not White and make us feel it. What needs to be done is to have compulsary 6 months school exchange where White kids go to Black schools visa versa and only then will you get to shed some of your old habits(Dont tell us about crime we are all affected by it, no matter the colour).
HAVE YOUR SAY
Please enter your comment into the text box below.
Note: all comments are moderated (see our moderation policy) and may take some time to display, or may not appear at all.
If you would like to use an alias, please type it below. If you do not enter an alias you comment under a Anonymous byline.
Type your email address below - your comment will not be accepted without it. This is required as part of our moderation guidelines, but your address will not be published or distributed.
Lastly, to help fight spam, enter the letters in the image below as you see them.




Subscribe now to Pretoria News
Watch IOLs latest videos on YouTube Join IOLs Facebook page Follow IOL on Twitter





     Online Services

Date Your Destiny
 
I'm a 57 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 42 and 55.
 

     More Services

     More South Africa Stories