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By Victoria John

A number of parents are stuck in a desperate battle with a church in Durban's upmarket suburbs that they accuse of "stealing" and brainwashing their teens.

Calling Grace Gospel Church in Pinetown a "mind-controlling" Christian cult, the parents claim girls have been married to men they hardly know, chosen for them by the church.

The church is a branch of Church Team Ministries International (CTMI), an international Christian group with head offices in Mauritius.

The group's leader, Basil O'Connell-Jones, was sent to Durban from another CTMI branch, Selborne Park Christian Church in Bulawayo, Zimbabwe, in 2003.

He is well known in charismatic Christian circles for his autobiography Amazing Grace, which details his time as a soldier in the then Rhodesian army and his near-death experience of being shot in the head and then overcoming the injury.
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Now O'Connell-Jones is accused of ministering to many young people, aged between 18 and 30, and encouraging them to abandon their tertiary studies and careers and leave their families to live with him in his Hillcrest home or in other church leaders' homes.

CTMI is led by founder and televangelist Miki Hardy, who is said to live in luxury in Mauritius. The group is alleged to encourage its members to leave their home countries and go to the island to help build the Mauritian church and "serve the Lord".

Parents who have lost children to the group have formed the Concerned Parents Group, to fight the church.

They tell of how, when pastors initially approached the Grace Gospel Church with their concerns, including the church's aggressive recruitment of children from their churches, they were called "pathetic Pharisees", jealous of the church's secret doctrine, which no other church apparently has.


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3 Days ago Anonymous wrote :
I believe that religious intolerance and derrogatory remarks start wars,beginning first in a family then spreading into a community and then a country. We have to learn RESPECT for all even though we don't believe in the same faith/God/religion etc. I have heard far too many 'Christians' making damning statements about other religions and talking with such arrogance and self assurance that it makes me worry about the already fragile future of world peace. It seems that they are waiting for the 'end times' with such relish as they no doubt will be flying first class...The Grace Gospel Church in Mauritius sounds very dubious. (I wouldn't drink anything offered to me if I was there!)
12 Weeks ago Fatima wrote :
I find it quite amazing that people can become so SELF-RICHEOUS and decide that another Chruch or Group is a cult. They read the Bible? they Love Jesus? whats the problem?
Even If someone wanted to start a cult or worship a rock they are entitled to as long as its within the law.
How can you try to stop someones belief because YOU do not agree with them. Who do you think you are!
From what i see there is not one single stitch of evidence that this group has intentionally done anything wrong, all allegations seem to be exadurated speculation Wheres the Proof??? I doubt there is any.
I dont think these parents are really thinking about their children, i would not embarrass my child in Public like this its discusting, I suggest these parents put their personal agendas aside and think about the real damage
THEY are causing to future relations with their children. and maybe go and speak to some parents who have daughters who run away from home and spend their lives hanging out in drug dens being pimped out and abused, that is REAL pain!! This is Pathetic.
12 Weeks ago Cocerned Anonymous wrote :
I have had contact with this CTMI group and i jus want to say from what i've seen it possesses all the traits of a cult-from having a leader who members say has brought special message from God-"the true gospel"-Jesus says I am the way the TRUTH and the life-There is no other truth besides Jesus people!and Jesus was there long before this leader was born and Jesus will be there long after this leader passes too.They esteem their leader so highly to the extent of almost worshipping him;they believe they are the only ones who are truly christian or more christian than others;they discourage members from having contact with outsiders;they live these lives that are out of touch with reality-like they are already in heaven;they are judgemental of other churches;they major on minor things that really dont matter in the kingdom of God-like genre of gospel music;they are robotic in mannerisms and speech;they have a certain language that is distinct from other christians;members seem so blinded and one-track minded like they have been brainwashed;everyone seems to think that God has called them to Mauritius to "be with the bretheren" where it just so happens their leader is;and when or if they return from Mauritius they are even worse in their deception;members seem unable to make simple decisions for themselves;members seem to change their attitude toward their biological families if these families dont attend CTMI and this is breaking families up-This is not Christ like at all people-dont be decieved.Ask God to open your eyes-Let the Word of God and the Holy Spirit in you be your standard-not your church values and systems-God help us!
12 Weeks ago Me too! wrote :
To Heather. It is so very sad that you lost a son, and for this I am truly sorry, and also rejoice that he knew the Lord.

And it could probably be a good thing that your other son is doing "what the Lord put's on his heart".

The question I have is when the Lord "put's it on the heart" of children to reject their parents and their parents' churches I question who is putting this stuff on their hearts?

I compare the Word ("Children honour your father and mother that if might go well with you") with "the Lord has put it on my heart to move out of home and down the road to an elders houise, to marry so-and-so against your wishes and drop out of university and move to Mauritius" with Ephesians 6:1-3 and,I'm sorry Heather, the Bible trumps what's "on your heart"!

Most of "what's on my heart" is really what's on the leaders heart!
12 Weeks ago Also concerned wrote :
Where there is smoke there is fire!

It is all very well that some of these members of the church can tell us how their children are not having a beer in the local pub, or not being rebellious, or that these people love each other.

But I would say that it is a far more serious matter to tell children that their biological family is no longer their family and that the church is now their family

It is a far more serious matter to tell these children to move out of home and live down the road or on an island and reject their parents.

It is a far more serious matter to convince these children to reject the university studies or career they were previously planning to pursue.

I believe that this pastor's wife left him 2 years ago. there is a problem with this church and that is why all the schools in the Highway area have banned the members from mixing with the kids. That is why 2 of them (ex pupils) were stopped from coaching a sports team.

They have an agenda, they target young impressionable children and they turn them against parents and they caused them to abandon previously important tertiary studies.

Much smoke, have a look - much fire!!
13 Weeks ago Marc wrote :
The bible is a great book of learning with many great examples on how to live and make decisions.

It is not to be taken literally people.

Literal perception of the bible = Apartheid, Crusades, Ku Klux Klan and most recently CTMI.

I bet if Jesus were here he would bitterly disappointed in how his message has been miscontrued in so many ways to benefit a certain few.
13 Weeks ago Schroeder wrote :
Everyone that was expecting the space ship to arrive to fetch them seemed happy, and they all died peacefully? Religious manipulation is of the most evil order and those responsible for stealing young lives will have to face up to their doings.

I can't stand all this reference to, "being fully in the world" and lost?? Hello cult people, this is the world, it's made up of madness, love and sorrow, good times and bad times, we have to learn to roll with the punches and learn from this amazing place, called the world. Hiding out in Mauritius and profiting from poor people is not making the world a better place. I bet that all members of this church are expected to contribute heavily to the 'building of the church', I bet if you look closely you'll find it has more to do with the building of the elderss' houses.

Sadly there are no laws for that prohibit adultery, or the stealing of young minds and souls; if only more attention was paid to this instead of hunting down people without t.v licences.

To all young people, the journey of being young happens only once, so embrace the world, make love, get high, learn and most of all be honest in your dealings with the world and always consider your neighbour, that we you'll make it a better place for all.

To all cult people, you are pathetic, cowardly and deserve to pelted with rotten tomatoes in annual parade
13 Weeks ago Sparrow wrote :
Everyone who attends this church has the option to either agree or disagree with the doctrines preached. If they disagree, they can either speak up or not attend that particular church. Many people over time have given up all that they have and chosen to follow Jesus Christ. they have gone into many parts of the world not only to preach the Gospel but taken their talents with them, doctors, nurses and engineers, and through them many nations or regions have been educated and come to know Jesus. I am surprised that there is no outcry in the press when another religion can blow up people, including woman and children, on almost a weekly basis. There are many guys out there who served with the Armed/Special Forces from RSA, Rhodesia, UK and the USA who now serve within the ministry in a number of regions of the world in various fields. I would like for someone to help me understand why Christians must be poor. I cannot find any refererance to this doctrine in the Bible. The Bible in fact shows us many of the great people who were very wealthy, great leaders and men of God. If my parents left me millions, must I now give it all away and live in poverty?
13 Weeks ago Heather wrote :
I have been a member of Grace Gospel Church, and I am happy to be a part of CTMI.The heading in the independent paper on Saturday "Church Worse than Death”, I experience the worse pain of loosing a son in January this year he was 17years of age the only time I will see my son is when I go to heaven one day. To me a child that wants to serve the lord and be obedient to the calling on his or her life is a joy. I have a 22year old son that was fully in the world he was going down hill. Two years ago he went to Mauritius on a youth camp, he agreed to go as he wanted to see Mauritius and to please me, he went to the camp totally rebellious and in his rebellious state the lord touched his heart and today he is serving the lord and I thank god for that as who knows where he would have been if he was not, as losing his brother was not easy for him, he is in his third year of studying and we as a family have never experienced the church controlling him or telling him what to do, we have only felt the encouragement and support from every elder and member of CTMI. I can only say that I am really proud to be part of the family that the lord has put us in. My son is not influenced by men but only follows what the lord puts on his heart and he has shared with us that if the Lord puts a desire in his heart to move he would go and I know it would be hard as a mother to release him but to me I know the lord would help me as I would rather he does what the lord places in his life than please me and be controlled by the world.
13 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
Freaky, stinks of a Cult. The founder of this church most likley living in the lap of luxury and is the only winner.
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