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 Britain more violent than SA and US - report
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By James Slack
Daily Mail

Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it has been revealed.

Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries.

The figures comes on the day new Home Secretary Alan Johnson makes his first major speech on crime, promising to be tough on loutish behaviour.

The Tories said Labour had presided over a decade of spiralling violence.

In the decade following the party's election in 1997, the number of recorded violent attacks soared by 77 per cent to 1,158 million - or more than two every minute.
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The figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

  • The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.

  • It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
  • The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
  • It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.

    But it is the naming of Britain as the most violent country in the EU that is most shocking. The analysis is based on the number of crimes per 100 000 residents.

    In the UK, there are 2 034 offences per 100 000 people, way ahead of second-placed Austria with a rate of 1 677.

    The US has a violence rate of 466 crimes per 100 000 residents, Canada 935, Australia 92 and South Africa 1 609.

    Shadow Home Secretary Chris Grayling said: 'This is a damning indictment of this government's comprehensive failure over more than a decade to tackle the deep rooted social problems in our society, and the knock on effect on crime and anti-social behaviour.

    'We're now on our fourth Home Secretary this parliament, and all we are getting is a rehash of old initiatives that didn't work the first time round. More than ever Britain needs a change of direction.'

    The figures, compiled by the Tories, are considered the most accurate and up-to-date available.

    But criminologists say crime figures can be affected by many factors, including different criminal justice systems and differences in how crime is reported and measured.
    New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today

    New Home Secretary Alan Johnson is to make his first major speech on crime today

    In Britain, an affray is considered a violent crime, while in other countries it will only be logged if a person is physically injured.

    There are also degrees of violence. While the UK ranks above South Africa for all violent crime, South Africans suffer more than 20,000 murders each year - compared with Britain's 921 in 2007.

    Experts say there are a number of reasons why violence is soaring in the UK. These include Labour's decision to relax the licensing laws to allow round-the-clock opening, which has led to a rise in the number of serious assaults taking place in the early hours of the morning.

    But Police Minister David Hanson said: "These figures are misleading.

    Levels of police recorded crime statistics from different countries are simply not comparable since they are affected by many factors, for example the recording of violent crime in other countries may not include behaviour that we would categorise as violent crime.

    "Violent crime in England and Wales has fallen by almost a half a peak in 1995 but we are not complacent and know there is still work to do. That is why last year we published 'Saving lives. Reducing harm. Protecting the public. An Action Plan for Tackling Violence 2008-11'."

    The timing of the Europe-wide violence figures is a blow for Mr Johnson, who will today seek to reassert Labour's law and order credentials.

    In his first major speech on crime since becoming Home Secretary, Mr Johnson is expected to promise a concerted crack down on antisocial behaviour.

    He wants to set up a website to allow the public to see what is taking place in their neighbourhood, such as the number of louts who have been served with Asbos.

    Mr Johnson is also known to support early intervention to stop children going off the rails.

  • Showing page 1 of 4 comment pages, 39 total comments
    20 Weeks ago Point Blank wrote :
    My sister lives in the UK and has expressed her concern for the young ruffians that roam the streets in gangs. There has also been a MASSIVE increase in murders and gang related violence. What is also noticable is the increase in cash-in-transit robberies over there as well as the increase in gun related crime, so those who laugh at these stats should maybe think twice before brushing them off. Or even better still, go live in the UK with it's miserable people and weather. Did you know that in the Northern Cape the crime rate is one of the lowest in the world? So yes people there are places in South Africa that is very safe but you all think as far as your front door.
    20 Weeks ago Ashley wrote :
    While there may be a serious problem with 'violent crime' in the UK, to compare with South Africa's official figures is ridiculous. Who here would bother reporting an altercation in a pub. Rape, as has been made very clear recently, is being placed in 'incident books' and therefore off the crime radar. I was the victim of an armed robbery a while ago and there has been no effective police investigation. If that category of crime can't be investigated properly, why bother reporting crime, other than to provide the statistics that are clear to all South Africans (and that probably won't be released anyway).
    20 Weeks ago JR wrote :
    I lived in the UK for 14 years and what is classified as violent crime in the UK is a punchup/pub brawl and the likes, and someone using knives, very few guns are used in crime over there as handguns are pretty well banned except in some exceptional cases. Problem here in South Africa is that we call violent crime usually results in death, mutilation, serious other injuries. The second issue I have with this type of reporting is that these statistics are based on government released figures which they admit are often wrong and also the government UNDER reports crime stats in this country as they do with most stats like inflation etc. Case in point was a few years ago teh government reported just over 16,800 murders, the medical examiners who do autopsies reported over 32,000 unlawfull deaths. So basically saying, we cannot take this seriously.
    20 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
    Last anonymous, you are talking rubbish..... if you have a family and do not want any harm to come to them when you are in a place such as Dirtbin (Durban), you move for the better of your family. "Most parts of SA are as safe as most parts of England" - what a load of rubbish.... OOhhh I am sure its really scarey driving down to Cornwall or up to Birmingham etc..... much like driving from Durban to Jo'burg - NOT !! Becareful for hijackings, bag snatching at lights, random HiACE taxis overloaded and crashing.... roads with potholes all over them.... I am sure if its dark while you are driving you would pull over for a sleep in a layby in South Africa !!!! MUPPET !!!!!!
    20 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
    The biggest problem about crime in SA are those winning on about it when overseas! You are as bad as the Poms about the weather! England is a terrible place and is not safe. Most parts of SA are as safe as most parts of England. If you are overseas and moaning on about crime and more in SA, take your passport and rip it up and start supporting England and the Lions. Saffa's abroad are now the official SOET PEELS. Love it or LEAVE it. But please stop running down our beloved country!
    20 Weeks ago Anonymous kev wrote :
    what next, residents of Europe and UK are going to flock to SA because of their high crime rate !! maybe it because SA doesn't report crime stats properly !! get with the program Daily Mail - stop dreaming !!
    20 Weeks ago Anne wrote :
    What a HUGE laugh to start the weekend:-) The mind quite boggles. If only the stats were true. At least you can get onto a train in England without, literally, being stabbed in the back.
    20 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
    Oh Please!! Higher than SA??? At least in Britain crimes are reported and investigated... here after 10's of people are mugged while following the soccer and Lions tour we have police with the audacity to ask "What crimes" "What muggings" "We have no reports" South Africans dont bother reporting petty crimes anymore. If they do, they are not investigated and prosecuted. Other than the hotel theft incident, which is purely a publicity stunt for FIFA, when did you last read about someone being convicted and sentenced for "petty" crimes????
    20 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
    We must not believe everything we read from media Our crime is definitely violent and malicious in nature. Our crime is also racialistic in nature too. We must compare apples with apples NOT on some prejudiced opinion. Its like being a hypocrite claiming the chinese fake the olympics. We need to grow up
    20 Weeks ago Anonymous wrote :
    This is the biggest joke I've read today. SA less violent that the UK? I doubt anyone will shoot you for 50 pounds and your mobile phone in London or rape your 4 yr old daughter -- this happens almost everyday in SA!!!?? Maybe the author of this article should come and live over here for a while and experience the 'real life' and not just read meaningless stats

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