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Mugabe ‘the crazy old man’


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Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe asked why the International Criminal Court is not indicting Tony Blair and George W Bush for war crimes instead of prosecuting Sudan's leader. Photo: Reuters

“The crazy old man” - this apparently is how South Africa’s International Relations Minister, Maite Nkoane Mashabane, branded Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, according to a US embassy cable from Pretoria to Washington

It is part of the first batch of 250 000 US embassy cables leaked by Wikileaks yesterday and which were published by major newspapers around the world, including The Guardian in Britain and the New York Times.

Other cables relating to South Africa include an amusing account of a meeting with ANCYL leader Julius Malema and others on then president Thabo Mbeki, according to The Guardian’s South African correspondent, David Smith. These had not yet been published online at the time of going to press.

US diplomats approached South Africa along with other relevant countries in an attempt to do damage control. This as reports emerged that the documents included embarrassing criticism by US officials of Nelson Mandela.

US embassy spokeswoman Elizabeth Trudeau would not comment on the specifics, but insisted that the embassy did not believe anything that might be revealed would be damaging to relations with SA.

The US cables between the embassy in Pretoria and Washington contain reactions to Mandela’s strong criticism of then president George W Bush after he sent US troops into Iraq in 2003.

Mandela, who was no longer president, said Bush was incapable of thinking correctly and had ignored UN pressure not to go to war with Iraq because the UN secretary-general at the time, Kofi Annan, was a black man.

The cables also included brutally frank assessments of Mugabe and now Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai, as well as information on how the ANC stopped Mandela from meeting Margaret Thatcher, and a cable dated January 17, 1990, reporting that Essa Moosa, a lawyer close to Mandela, had revealed that then president FW de Klerk would unban liberation organisations on February 2.

Nelson Mandela Foundation spokesman Sello Hatang said they had no comment.

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Anonymous, wrote

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05:36am on 1 December 2010
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Empowerment by Mugabe done rightly or wrongly has addressed a long simmering problem. Zimbabwe is forging ahead and those that dont participate have themselves to blame. As Wiki leaks shows no country is perfect. As a people we will triumph, the road is long but not insurmountable. We are investing more resources into education and health again and that shoud see us turning the bend much earlier. The struggle continues.

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wynand kuypers, wrote

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11:46pm on 30 November 2010
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The whole Zimbabwe story is very boring.The voters are to blame for allowing them to be ruled the way they are.

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fiver, wrote

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01:44pm on 29 November 2010
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Kenny> Not sure what planet you live on, but Irish Americans do indeed call themselves Irish Americans, so did German Americans until they became assimilated into the wider Anglo-Saxon community..

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SANibbler, wrote

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01:25pm on 29 November 2010
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Keeping angry Farmers friendly in rural communities like Zimbabwe is te best thing for the country to start feeding its own people. This entire "African" and "Coloniast" thing is boring and outdated. No more excuses, most decent Africans want a decent job and home. My first six words are key.

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kenny, wrote

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11:26am on 29 November 2010
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What is an 'African American'? If you are born in America then you are American.Why do black americans always call themselves African? Shuold the whites call themselves Irish Americans or German Americans?. Where is their pride in there country. Should I call myself 'Scottish S.African'

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Graham F, wrote

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11:11am on 29 November 2010
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Thats putting him in the best possible light. He has been much worse than that for the development and benefit of Zimbabwe. Southern African ministers are to a large extent to blame for allowing it. They should have pulled the plug and inposed sanctions.

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Anonymous, wrote

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11:07am on 29 November 2010
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Please! Who is this silly moron? Who are the people thats covering for this man. I think my bullterier at home have more between his ears than this man.with him out of this world,things will be so much better in Africa and the rest of the world. .

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AfricanPride, wrote

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10:56am on 29 November 2010
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@anonymous .... your crazy "son of African soil" argument is an embarrassment to many Africans. Methinks your argument reeks if self-entitlement, arrogance and racism. Convince iol reader otherwise please.

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peter, wrote

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10:51am on 29 November 2010
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no where in the world does minority own majority of land ???----try england!!!! better still google "who owns britain"

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MarcE, wrote

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10:51am on 29 November 2010
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@Anonymous 10:03am : Your correct in using the term "minority". What you fail to realise, however, that the minority in this case refers to friends of the president - NOT the people. Idiot !

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No Muzzling of Media, wrote

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10:45am on 29 November 2010
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Viva Wikileaks, Viva! Even more reason South Africans should say No to Media-Muzzling laws! Watch ANC and their cronies call to ban not only Twitter, but Wikileaks too Eish!!

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Anon, wrote

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10:43am on 29 November 2010
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@Anonymous (10:03am): You should look up the definitions of "minority" and "majority". In Africa, the majority (Africans) control the government, whereas the minority would be considered to be white, indian, asian and all other peoples. The word "minority" doesn't automatically refer to someone being black, it's just been used in that context in the United States, since over there, there is a white majority and black minority.

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Dave, wrote

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10:36am on 29 November 2010
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@ Anonymous - so all african americans and all africans around the rest of the world should own nothing because they from Africa? You so narrow minded and belong under the ocean, go write stupid comments somewhere else you chop.

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porzy, wrote

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10:31am on 29 November 2010
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He's the "son of African soil". Pretty much spot on - use him as fertiliser ASAP. Strange how mr. anonymous is satisfied with the borders of African countries considering the colonialist created all these borders?? Perhaps you need to renegotiate the borders of all African countries with your fellow African brothers and sisters seeing that it wasn't Africans that defined them (wouldn't that be a circus). I trust you're happy with the borders that the colonialist defined then.. ha ha ha...it must be awesome to live the African farce!!

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Watcher, wrote

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10:28am on 29 November 2010
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Interesting that 'anonymous'extols african land in african hands, yet look wht happens to it when the land is owned by africans. 95% of the time its a backward step!

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Chrissie, wrote

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10:22am on 29 November 2010
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Dear Anonymous, It is just a pity that once they had the land they did not know what to do with it, therefor there as so many starving people in Zimbabwe. It is like giving a child a toy and you know he is going to destroy it

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Theo Lande, wrote

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10:22am on 29 November 2010
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In politics everything happens for a reason. Why the WikiLeaks now that South African is engaged in trying to protect sensitive secrete state information from being leaked to the media and also prevent media from destructive reporting which infringe other people's rights. Is this a coincident or its just way of telling the ANC government that there is no way information can be soncored because; information will always be leaked. The world must wake up, the Freemasons are going to destroy it.

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Khomotso Phukubye, wrote

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10:12am on 29 November 2010
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There is nothing like a Wikileak man! These are intentionally published accounts. We would see who the intended targets are as this wikileak sh*t unfolds.

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mugglewort, wrote

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10:06am on 29 November 2010
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At last, we get some truth from a SA government Minister. Please promote him and fire the rest. @Anonymous - he sure isn't a moron; a moron would not be such a successful, evil megalomaniac.

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Anonymous, wrote

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10:03am on 29 November 2010
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You can hate Mugabe all you want, but he is the son of African soil. No where in the world do you find minority owning majority of land except in African countries (South Africa being one example). Viva Mugabe. African land belongs to Africans and it should be in the hands of Africans!!!

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