How do we corerect the wrong with the wrong? IOL readers, let us not preach respect,responsibility, acountability, interlect, freedom,patriotism if we still post coments like these. We ourselves use offensive words and disrespect, what do we want the world and our youth to learn from us. All that you are saying here will happen to you one day as it is happening to Zuma and others, we will pay for our sins of being disrespectful to others.

"South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others." Read it and weep! London Times

A few of you dont understand that there has to be an opposition in a Democracy. The opposition is there to make sure there is no Dictatorship. Have you noticed that when the ANC government get it right the opposition praise them? All enlightened people, no matter what colour they are realise that there has to be "checks and balances" in any country. Its no good bringing race into the argument, it makes the debate very heated, its unecessary to say ugly things about each others race.

If it is true that the "whites" have all the money, then that is how the "people" are able to get money from the government. If the "blacks" had all the money how many people would they help. When ever there is a catastophy, its the whites who are the first to hold out their hands and help. Stop being so pig headed you whiners, its no use hitting the piggy bank on the head because you will eventually break it and then there will be no more.

"its not over till its over" says Malema. He actually means "its not over till the fat boy sings".

Most people really misunderstand Julius & his militancy..ANCLY are the kingmakers in the ANC, but their take is that they are on a learning curve, so they don't have to be diplomatic in saying things! It is not correct to say that 90% fear the 10% minority in implementing policies like AA, EE to bring parity, it is the realisation that if you leave this to its own devices, it will never correct itself. I'm sorry for "Graham F" for lacking class divisions of society without necessarily race, but the fact in this case is that whites were favoured for a long time and afforded opportunities to "create that wealth" on the back of poor, exploited majority, it's not because of being clever! And "Skromrox" shame, you're so ignorant about corruption if you think it is ANC, Malema and Zuma leading it, it is all over the world and they try and hide it, at least Zuma acknowledges that there's corruption that has to be defeated, your Apartheid bosses never even wanted it known or mentioned, you could hang for saying it! "mRs Kiwi" one would understand your problem and you think that Moeletsi Mbeki is the best, cos he talks as "arm-chair critic", let him in govt, you will see mistakes, but its bad when he speaks as a white person...as you tell us! Wena.."blackpower" saying "since Zuma took over, even black people are heading down-under (Australia), you're dreaming and you have a nightmare - how do you think that poor people can even think of emigrating, it is only the elite, privileged and those who have benefitted from our democracy who now talks of leaving SA - wake up, it cant be the majority! We are not leaving our country, no matter what, we were born here and will die here. People must stop trying to divide ANC leaders be it Mandela, Thabo Mbeki or Zuma...they are all ANC leaders and follow ANC policies, not as individuals and Madiba always said that he acts in a collective leadership! STOP glorifying others and demonising others.

@ Mord Morris... I suppose you are automatically refering to the 9% of the population as being white? What you may not know is that the government owns 30 % of the land and the government is ANC, so your statement that 9% percent of the popultaion owns 90% of the land is wrong. @Hilton you say that the 10% of the population has 90% of the riches and this is because of a 200 year headstart. This is true, most of the lands riches were from the industrialisation of South Africa when Europeans came here and kicked off the diamond and gold mining industries in the 1880's. The local population could have had a headstart on developing this industry for thousands of years prior to this, had they had the technical ability and the knowhow which they didnt. Even today with such deals as Aurora they still cant manage a mine when it is almost given to them. AA and BEE although comendable in its aim of righting the wrongs of the past will never truely work as it puts the incompetent in important positions and gives wealth to the few greedy politically connected individuals. So it is a simple fact of life, the strongest and the cleverist will always climb to the top on the backs of the weakest and the dumbest. AA and BEE is like taking a fourth division side and saying its so unfair that they are never in the premiership so waht we are going to do is ask the top Premiership teams to lose some games for a while so that the poor 4th division sides can also have a taste of the glory. Its sadly called competition, its in human nature so you will have to leanrn to live with it.

What ANC supporters dont realise is that there is no quick way to money unless you win the lottery. Ok say the ANCYL take away all the wealth from the whites, they spend it and then what who are they going to get the money from next???? These very people will have no jobs just like the people of Zimbabwe who are now living in SA!! There is one solution and one solution only and its never going to happen over night. Instead of the ANC stealing all the money, money needs to be spent on services for the poor and education needs to be at the top of the list. Investing money in the youth is the only answer. There also needs to be a big change in culture black people in particular need to realise that they cant have big families any more. Zuma is a poor example of this, how if you have 10 wives and loads of children are you going to afford to give your children the best start in life??? ie the best education plus having such a large family how as a father are you going to be a role model for your children when you have so many. The world has moved on and without a culture change things will never change!!! Note this has nothing to do with race people so before you jumping up and down I am no racist so dont even go there!!!

@Hilton: please explain this 200 year start?

What MiniBob not instrumental in having Mbeki ousted, why the sudden praise!!

Ok, so what does he want from Thabo then?

Malema will have to commit suicide because 2 years ago he said he will "kill for Zuma"!

Julie you are spot on, Tbos is a true leader and is infortune that one can not compare the two presidents, is chalk and cheese,one would have undermine Tbos so much if you compare with JZ, just compare the dilemma of Searra Leone and Libya,I think Tbos would have come up with a best solution there is.A world stateman that the Nato would have listen to him, Let us face the truth whether we like or not JZ is below par and what I find frustrating why ANC does not you Tbos, he is their own child and development, I will repeat his own words that history will judge.

In an empty head the wind can blow from any direction and change course unexpectantly

@Florah. I think you need to take off your rose-tinted glasses. "Man of truth" or saying what he needs to so he can get what he wants?

@Penny Hickman, what a poor quote to put forward. Please put forward a more intellectual argument against AA. You see you can't have 10% of the population have 90% of the countries riches, this after they got a 200 year head start. I'm sorry my dear but you got this one horribly wrong. The London Times know bugger all of SA's real problems and they (the Brits) are part of the reason why AA is needed to change the way the South African economic landscape looks. Stop living in a bubble and smell the coffee.

This laaitie now SURELY needs to be expelled from the ANC.He really is a non - sensicle idiot and is basically clueless.Surely S.A. and it's inhabitants are bigger then this wippet snapper.

how can they let Julias keep running for presidency of a YOUTH league?? Surely at his age he is no longer considered YOUTH?!

@ Mord Morris I just wanted to let you know that you make Malema sound like Mensa material. Perhaps you could broaden your horizons a bit and google the richest people in South Africa, you might be in for a shock.

Judas Malema seems to be a more fitting name for Juju!