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"T-shirt terrorist" Harry Fokker has criticised Africa Christian Action for targeting Markham T-shirt designs it found offensive.

Harry Fokker, the T-shirt terrorist who runs a website selling T-shirts with controversial designs, on Sunday criticised Africa Christian Action for targeting Markham T-shirt designs it found offensive and which were eventually pulled.

“I do see where they’re coming from, but the response was out of line, uncalled for,” Fokker said.

Africa Christian Action and other bloggers raised a furore in response to T-shirts like one that read “I recycle girls” with a green recycle symbol. They called for people to complain to men’s fashion retailer Markham and to sign an online petition that received 226 signatures.

Scott Tubman, who saw the designs in a Kenilworth Centre store in Cape Town, wrote a series of e-mails to Markham that were posted online: “These messages are neither funny nor cheeky. They are destructive for our whole community.

“Our country already has unacceptably high rates of HIV and Aids, child sexual abuse and rape. By stocking this merchandise you are complicit in these evils.”

Fokker criticised this view and wrote to Africa Christian Action: “Nor can seeing, buying, wearing T-shirts displaying sharply categorised funny, deliberately offensive (read: satirical) slogans impact negatively on individuals who have a strong ethical code instilled in them.”

In response to the complaints, however, Markham pulled and destroyed several pieces, including the “I recycle girls” shirt and another shirt it had paid for but had not produced yet.

“The recycle one was definitely offensive,” said Kathryn Sakalis, communications director for Foschini, which owns Markham. “The shirts were supposed to be tongue in cheek, never offensive.”

On whether shirts are offensive, Fokker wrote, “We should be allowed to make these decisions for ourselves … Some issues, for example violence against women, can only truly be addressed if all parties are constantly aware of these issues. Satirical T-shirts draw issues that are sometimes avoided into the public consciousness.”

Fokker said the Markham recall was an “unfortunate outcome”.

“I make satirical T-shirts … Some do cross the line, but they’re meant to be humorous, to use controversy.” - The Mercury

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Aquaman, wrote

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03:40pm on 11 April 2011
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Really now...What happened to FREEDOM of CHOICE? If you don't like it, don't buy one...anybody with more than 2 brain cells will no be affected by what a T-Shirt has to say. I mean, if we can view 'porn' on our local tv channels and that's okay? Is that not a tad more unethical...I think you guys are being abit sensitive...there's bigger things to worry about impacting our ethical codes than a Tshirt.

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Nicky, wrote

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03:39pm on 11 April 2011
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@Kirsten...and I have the freedom of choice NOT to have to see you wearing an offensive shirt like that! Just like you have the freedom to smoke, but not somewhere where it will take away my freedom not to have to breath your filthy smoke filled air, so you have to look at this "freedom" as well....if it takes away from anothers freedom then sorry...wear the shirt at home where I don't have to deal with it.

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Anonymous, wrote

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03:32pm on 11 April 2011
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@Kirsten: It’s because of people like Fokker and yourself that we in normal society fight for the laws we have to remain intact lest we degrade into a cesspool in which only fokkers such as yourself can exist. We all coexist on this planet, whether you agree or not. We therefore always need to take the interest of our fellow humans into account when we make decisions such as these. When you can understand that, you will then (perhaps) understand the selfishness of your statement about “your choice”. It is when we focus on ourselves that we begin to disregard the wellbeing of others.

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Anonymous, wrote

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03:18pm on 11 April 2011
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I have seen girls wearing t-shirts saying "100% Bitch" or "100% man-eater". Isn't that the same thing? Who cares what's on a shirt?? I got one that says "swallow or it's going in your eye"

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@juan, wrote

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03:05pm on 11 April 2011
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Bro- It's about T-shirts not Malema or your 'innocent' farmers!! If you've a gripe with Malema, go to court and voice your opinion.

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Johan, wrote

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02:58pm on 11 April 2011
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Without a sense of humour we are all fokkered

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Dwayne, wrote

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02:38pm on 11 April 2011
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If these people really had such a strong ethical code instilled in them, they wouldn't be affected by a poor little T-shirt. What a bunch of hypocrites.

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Windblast, wrote

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02:35pm on 11 April 2011
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Mr Fokker, please F--K OFF.

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Anonymous, wrote

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01:43pm on 11 April 2011
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does he have t-shirt designed for girls as well?? i thought as much

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Anonymous, wrote

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01:43pm on 11 April 2011
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And while you have your freedom of choice,Kirsten,some non-sentient douche-bag sees you or some else wearing a "i recycle girls!" t-shirt and winds up MORALLLY SWAYED and abuses females(child or adult), I hope that it neva happens to someone you know! Like your little sista, or your aunt or your MOTHER OR YOU!! The aftermath of such freedoms,sentience and common sense is often seen by counsellors,psychologists and social workers. Just ask them the next time you meet one!!!

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Merisha, wrote

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01:43pm on 11 April 2011
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Markham is not the only store selling such shirts, but think about it, who are going to be buying these t-shirts? The mature men already pass their mid-20's who have women in their lives that they lOve, respect and will never ever refer to as being "recycled" or our young impressionable teen boys who submit easily to peer pressure, think they're invincible (and hence immune to HIV) and have no idea as to what the actions of a responsible man consists of or what a mature, emotional relationship with a woman really consists of? How are we supposed to teach our young men to respect women when they slogans and role models that say otherwise?

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Matrix, wrote

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01:28pm on 11 April 2011
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Nobody has a right to do as they please ( as some readers seem to suggest). We are all part of a society and have a responsibility and respect to each other especially when it comes to deep seated issues and morality. T-shirts being worn by a person expresses what that person feels and believes and hence it is a statement and a form of promotion. There is no true "freedom of speech" any anybody with a bit of brains will understand this.

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Sean, wrote

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01:26pm on 11 April 2011
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If it read "I recycle guys", nothing would have come of it OR perhaps the individual woman would have been labelled 'loose'. I don't know a single person who has only had one relationship. The people taking offense are living in a medieval artificial reality. Let me know where I can get one of these shirts.

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Spock101, wrote

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01:24pm on 11 April 2011
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Yes, we ALL do have freedom of choice, and yes, maybe those with a strong ethical code won't be swayed by the slogans on the T-shirts, however, the problem is that those t-shirts and other items of clothing with offensive slogans on them minimise the moral fibre of society and as the morals of people are currently going down the tubes a rate faster than the speed of light, anything that is seen to assist that decline does not belong in any public place, ESPECIALLY not where those vulnerable to suggestion are likely to be found, i.e. shopping malls and fashion establishments particularly. Anything sold in a fashion retail establishment is regarded as 'current fashion' therefore there ARE those who would think that the slogan on that t-shirt is acceptable. What we see, read, listen to goes into the brain AND STAYS. Soft porn leads to hard porn leads sexual abuse - FACT!

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Thabo, wrote

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01:23pm on 11 April 2011
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The message is unacceptable. Didnt Markham or Foschini see the T-shirts before they bought them?

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Anonymouse, wrote

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12:53pm on 11 April 2011
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Unfortunately many people do not have ANY "ethical code instilled in them", let alone a strong one. The problem with slogans such as these is that it makes it look acceptable, even fashionable and trendy, thus reinforcing a negative ethical code.

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Anonymous, wrote

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12:50pm on 11 April 2011
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Mr Fokker you have obviously not been at the receiving end of abuse. Do you have children? Is that the message you want to give to them. Whereas I don't have a problem with bringing in humour, it has to be done responsibly. You indicated that you know where the "line" is, please stay within and do your bit for humanity.

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Kirsten, wrote

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12:42pm on 11 April 2011
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For goodness sake, if you find the shirt offensive, don't buy one. I personally resent having MY freedom of choice taken away from me. Any sentient person, with one grain of common sense is hardly going to be morally swayed by a damn t-shirt. I'm not saying I don't find them tacky or pathetic, I'm saying I would like it to be MY choice as to whether I want to buy one or not.

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Anonymous, wrote

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12:27pm on 11 April 2011
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just another little attitude bender to further disrespect women in this country

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Anonymous, wrote

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12:27pm on 11 April 2011
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"they're meant to be humorous"??? Then don't give up your day job. Oh wait, that is your day job.

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