So who was slow and sleeping at the wheel??? Only not the bells go off!!!!

Amazing all these christian doomsdayers. They believe in the biggest conspiracy of all and cant see whats in front of their faces. Quite amusing I must admit. The stock markets dont crash because of some christian belief and global warming is as big a scam. People should read things other than newspapers owned by billionaires who control markets and want global taxes.

@ Anonymous 12:21 - Being Christian has nothing to do with it. Dont be so narrow minded. You arent special.

Here is just a sample from climategate 2.0 where climatologists admit the weakness of their science and the manipulation of data: “we can not account for what is happening in the climate system” Kevin Trenberth “Observations do not show rising temperatures throughout the tropical troposphere unless you accept one single study and approach and discount a wealth of others. This is just downright dangerous. We need to communicate the uncertainty and be honest. Phil, hopefully we can find time to discuss these further if necessary,” writes Peter Thorne of the UK Met Office. “I also think the science is being manipulated to put a political spin on it which for all our sakes might not be too clever in the long run,” Thorne adds. “Basic problem is that all models are wrong” Phil Jones (Computer Generated Climate Models) “ It is inconceivable that policymakers will be willing to make billion-and trillion-dollar decisions for adaptation to the projected regional climate change based on models that do not even describe and simulate the processes that are the building blocks of climate variability.” Jagadish Shukla “I pointed out to him that we certainly don’t know the GLOBAL mean temperature anomaly very well” Michael Mann

95% OF ALL greenhouse gases is made up of water vapour.CO2 ONLY MAKES UP 2% of all greenhouse gases. Living in coastal areas has higher water vapour in the air hence less drop in temperature at night.Please stop boiling water for coffee tea or for what ever else you need to boil water for to help combat global warming.

IOL, what happened to the post I made at 08h40 something, or should I see this as an admission of my statement that the media will only only print one side of the climate debate?

Why can't we spend some serious money trying to find an alternate energy source and stop burning oil!!! It's as simple as that! Stop burning oil and the Earth will heal Herself and everyone can live happily ever after :)

HEY the pseudo "leaders"of the now ruined DURBAN are not concerned this is just "another good time,chow etc"I mean "they" are all for BUILDING A HOTEL ON VETCHES PIER AND A SMALL CRAFT HARBOUR IN THE SAME AREA,how do u get to these places ...scuba gear?no they are here for the beer that's all.

@Anonymous 03:00 - 98% hey? Where did you pull that number from? And since when is smoking not harmful? Tar, nicotine and all the other poisons in sigarettes didn't suddenly become beneficial... And for your info, Climategate was "thoroughly" investigated INTERNALLY and cleared, if you believe that as being sufficient, I have a car I want to sell you. You probably also believe that the new Protection of Information Act will only be used for good.

Climategate was thoroughly investigated and the scientist were found not guilty of any manipulation of data. There is a LOT of money being made in the fossil fuel industry and just like the days when research found smoking causes cancer there was push back. Aha new research that finds cigarette smoking is good for you. Doctors telling patients that smoking is not harmful. Same thing is happening with climate change only there is much more money and the greater the push back Scientists are financed to find different outcomes. 98% of the world's scientists agree climate change is real and it is being caused by C02. Now if you go to one doctor and he tells you you have cancer and immediate action is needed and you go to 8 more doctors who say the same thing but the 9th one says no problem. Whose advice are you going to take. this is a good website by a science correspondent who does a thorough job of explaining climate gate and many other issues with climate change if you care enough to learn the facts.

@failure to understand science - I am a degreed Mechanical Engineer mate, I have a very good grasp of science ;) You read way more into what I said than what is there. I never denied global warming is occuring, the earth has gone through many global warmingcooling cycles (i.e. Ice Age etc.). What I do not agree with is the assumption that it is caused by man and industry. Quick question since you are so science savvy: where does the carbon come from that we emit through the use of coal and oil? As a "fossil fuel" it comes from "fossils" right? Which a few million years ago where actual plants, yes? Where do you think did the plants back then absorbed the carbon from? Could it be... the atmosphere??? GASP, so the carbon that we emit, has been in the atmosphere before getting absorbed and stored as fossilized deposits? And everything didn't DIE when all this carbon was in the atmosphere??? Go look at resources detailing carbon content in the atmosphere and you will find periods in the past where the concentration was up to 18 times higher than it is now and life teemed, and that my friend, is a scientific fact ;) And by the way, there is no such thing as scientific consensus, either it is proven scientifically, or it's not, which is where we are at the moment on whether man causes global warming. There is still so much I want to say, such as how people like me are branded "denialists" by people like you just because we are looking for REPEATABLE scientific proof of the cause of global warming. Parting shot, you know water vapour, right? If you know anything about thermodynamics, water vapour is a much better "absorber" of heat than any of the so called global warming gases. Good luck in controlling that...

Do we all have a can attitude and a willing to change? Are we empowered? 1- The need for gearing faster and better can come with Public opinion to make pressure on leaders. (particularly during electoral processes). Thus, having strong democratic systems. 2- Choosing those that offer most engaged in green societies. but, also participating daily in actions (lobbying). There are also, these evidence based policies to enforce. 3- Madness of crowds (thinking that we could make it tomorrow and delaying measures to change attitude, behavior patterns, using old tools to solve new issues, willing and not able, able and not willing....how to change. (Role of training, education, changing program, making teachers autonome) 4- It is a great experience to be in the protocoles for the good of the planet. We should be all on your side because you are are hears and eyes.

South Africa was just listed as the 5th country who will receive funds from the UN climate change adapation fund, which dished out $50 million in disbursements for the first 6 months of 2011 to companies, agencies and NGOs in four countries to help their society adapt their settlements and landscapes to adapt to climate change. So I'm not really concerned about how much COP is supposedly costing the SA taxpayer. Our people will benefit from this at the coalface - not money filtered through government. Leveraging this sort of funding is impossible without "talkshops" like COP, and also impossible without the governments of the developing world organising themselves to leverage it.

Cobus, you don't seem to understand science - by its very nature it is a process of interogation, so all scientists will never agree when it comes to the details. Because there isn't consensus on the rate of change does not mean that there is no change. But denialists throughout the centuries have always misused the natural disagreement in scientific discourse to their own advantage - much the same as yourself. The world is still flat too.

I am not hearing any bells, maybe all the bells and whistles yes. So who is paying for the 16000 delegates and the pressure on the Durban infrastructure, but wait no they are using only recycled stuff to save the planet ha ha ha in their hotel rooms.......New money making scheme how about a recycled hotel and then we can call it green

How long will they keep spouting these falsehoods? The IPCC lacks any credibility after Climategate, fixing data to hide the decline? "Scientists warn that any delay would make restricting warming to an average global increase of two degrees Celsius, or less, extremely difficult if not impossible." <- and the media aiding and abetting I see, how about saying "Global warming scientists warn..." instead of making it seem like all scientists agree which they most definitely do not?

While I tend to agree with Anonymous 12:21, the disciples considered themselves to be living "in the last days". How should Christians "prepare". You are either ready, or not. Global warming is not the only issue. A financial crisis will occurr more regularly and the Mark will soon become mandatory. Natural disasters will increase. Exciting times we live in.

There should be no need for separate accounts for water and electricity as if one can afford to choose, which utility not to be cut off from. There should also be no sewerage charge added to utility bills as this should be covered by the property rates and taxes. The higher the density the less expensive the service will be. Traditionally cities exist (amazing!) for protecting people who are not farmers by nature. I do not believe that democracy in RSA is hell-bent on reverting to an agrarian, subsistence or pre-industrial revolution society and climate change protagonists (who would usher this antiquated system back in) are definitely in the minority.

Every strang happenings arround the world, is to remind all christian that we are in the last day. christians all over the world should prepare for the Lords coming.