Johannesburg - Former public enterprises minister Barbara Hogan and her late husband, struggle stalwart Ahmed Kathrada, first came across the controversial Gupta brothers in 2004 at a lunch invite in Cape Town.
Hogan testified before the commission of inquiry into state capture that she and Kathrada had come across the Guptas twice. The first incident was when Essop Pahad, who served as minister in the presidency during Thabo Mbeki's administration, invited the couple to lunch in Constantia in 2004.
''Kathrada as a young child spent a lot of time at Pahad's home as a youngster while attending school in Johannesburg. He [Pahad] invited us to a lunch with his friends in Constantia. Apparently, the Guptas were there, it was the first time I heard about them...we had nothing to say to them, we talked with other people and left, we didn't stay long.''
The second time was after she had left Parliament and was no longer a minister when the couple were invited by the Indian High Commission for lunch.
''Ajay Gupta arrived, but he went and sat by a table by himself, appeared to be in a filthy mood...spoke to no one and just glared at all of us.''