Four views on chumming row


2205099

INLSA

The death of bodyboarder David Lilienfeld in a great

white shark attack has triggered heated debate

about the influence of chumming on shark activity in

False Bay. MELANIE GOSLING gets perspectives

from four people with an interest in the issue.

THE SHARK SCIENTIST

M A T T DICKEN has dismissed beliefs that chumming conditions sharks to associate food with humand and that research

carried out on the Ocearch vessel has made sharks aggressive.

Dicken, a research associate of Nelson Mandela Metropolitan University and director ofthe Bayworld Centre for Research and Education, is one of the 35 scientists involved in the Ocearch research project. Chumming did not provide food for the shark, as it was just a slick of mashed fish with water that created only the scent of food.

This meant the animal did not get a reward. The bait that cage divers used was tied to a rope and lured the shark towards the cage, but the shark did not eat the bait.

Even if the shark did manage to get the bait, cage operators would have to allow the shark to get the bait every time and to ensure it was the same shark that got the bait every time.

‘We know from tagged sharks that they don’t spend a long time in one place, so even if they were being fed - which they are not not - you would not get the same individual being fed every time. they are not in the area long enough to form an association,” DIcken said.

Even if one fed the same shark every time, the association it was likely to form was between the boat and food, and it would not form an association with individuals in the water. Dicken dismissed the claim that Ocearch’s activities had made sharks “aggressive”, or that this was likely reason for the attack on David Lilienfeld at Kogel bay on April 19.

“I can’t see the logic in that of a released shark bumping into one of its mates, passing on its aggression to that shark, which then swims off 26km and bites someone.” Dicken said that while he was diving with tiger sharks on the Aliwal Shoal, one of them had become tangled in the steel wire and had thrashed around until it freed itself. We never saw it transfer its aggression to any of its conspecifics, to its mates. People are looking for answers, trying to rationalise what happened, and they are trying to force connections between age diving or the researchers to rationalise it. I m ean no disrespect, they’re entitled to their opinions, but they’re forcing too hard.”

Surfer, sports promoter

P A U L B O T H A d o e s n ' t have a problem with chumming, whether its by cage divers or by researchers, but believes researchers catching sharks and releasing them “created stress” among the shark population. “In my estimation, chumming is not the problem. The amount of natural chum from seals on the island far exceeds anything the shark cage divers or the Ocearch people put into the water,” Botha said. “Also , fishermen have been chumming for centuries, and they still do in False Bay and it has not conditioned sharks.

The chumming from the Ocearch vessel did not get anywhere near Kogel Bay where the attack was.

‘’The jury is still out on cage divers using seal decoys and bait. It may well affect the behaviour of sharks when they come into contact with humans. But the Ocearch team throws out bait and hooks the shark and then they fight it to bring it in. When they are fighting it , the other sharks sense that the one -and -a half ton buddy of theirs is stressed, and that causes the shark to disperse. “ I think the whole shark population has been stresses and traumitised by this method.” Botha said internet groups’ opposition to chumming since David Lilienfeld was killed by a shark at Kogel bay on April 19 had '’gone viral’’, but the sites had focused only on chumming and not on the stress on sharks created by the research boat. “We’ve seen the shark population around Seal Island disperse to areas they normally don’t go to. None of the gage operators at Mossel Bay or False Bay or Gansbaai have seen sharks in the numbers they would have been.” Botha believes the “distressed state” of sharks was linked to the attack on Lilienfeld.

“There are sharks in that area (Kogel Bay), but sharks there are not normally cruising around looking for seals.

This one attacked three times, this thing ate (Lilienfeld's) leg.” Botha has been surfing in False Bay since the 1960s and says it was in the 1990s that great white sharks “became a problem.” This was because of overfishing, he believed. “There is not enough fish, so sharks spend more time inshore going for sand sharks and steenbras in Clovelly in September each year. “They didn't use to.”

Shark scientist

ALISON K O C K says shark a t t a c k s are highly emotive, so many people express views that “hype up or sensationalise these tragic incidents”. “It is important we stay fact-driven, and base any action on the best research available, not on emotion or on untested assumptions or guesswork.” Responding to Paul Botha's statement that Ocearch scientists had made sharks “aggressive” by catching and releasing them, and that there was a link between this and the fatal attack on David Lilienfeld, Kock said recreational fishermen regularly caught great white sharks in False Bay.

“Online reports and reports from bystanders tell of sharks being fought for up to four hours at a time. Sometimes we get reports on a weekly basis. They are dragged on to the beach or rocks, photographed and then released. If this were causing them to attack people, we would have many more attacks.” Kock said that before the Ocearch vessel began its work, Botha released a statement saying that chumming by Ocearch would mean an increased risk to False Bay water users. Now Botha said chumming was not

a problem. Kock said there had been a global increase in the incidence of shark attacks. “All areas where (great)

white sharks aggregate show that attacks have increased over the years and the only common denominator being more people in the water.” Over the past few months there had been high numbers of predators in False Bay with huge schools of bait fish in the inshore areas, and daily reports of the presence of thousands of dolphins, Bryde's whales, bronze whales and great white sharks.

Shark victim

SERGIO C A P R I , who was attacked by a shark while surfing at Kogel bay in 1999, believes cage diving has conditioned sharks to humand and has called for the industry to be closed. Capri is also calling for research to be carried out to prove whether there is no link between cage diving and shark attacks. While he concedes he has no proof that there is conditioning, he says the onus should be on the cage diving industry to prove this does not occur. “Even if there is a 0.5 chance that cage diving could cause loss of life or limb, it should be stopped. Proper research must be done. “They should prove that there is no conditioning before they allow those operations to continue.” Capri, from Somerset West, who was paddling on his surfboard when he was bitten by a great white, says the income

the handful of cage dive operators would lose if their operations were closed would be far smaller than the income lost by the tourism and water sport industries after every shark attack.

He says the safety of the many people who use the sea is more important than a single industry.

“Compare millions of people who use the sea for recreation, for surfing, bodysurfing, kiteboarding, fishing, swimming, with the person who goes in a cage once in his life. “I believe cage diving is making classic conditioning. “I don't believe in chumming, but I believe attracting sharks by baiting is more serious.

They tie a piece of bait, a tuna head, and throw it out and drag it back toward the cage and the shark follows it and has a go at the cage, and inside the cage is a human being in a wetsuit. “Now do the sums, with all the cage diving, the sharks are getting used to this.” Capri says the trauma he feels after every attack is greater than the trauma he felt after his own attack, which he remembers vividly again. “I was paddling out and it clamped me to my board. I was thinking: 'This is not happening.' Then I was going sideways like I had an outboard motor on me. All I could see was its huge gills, and I was hitting them. Most of the impact was taken by my board and when the board broke, it let go of me. I saw red all around me and saw the shark fin heading out past another guy and seeing his eyes like serious saucers. “I said: 'Don't leave me here, I don't want to die'. It was Gerhard Geldenhuys. If it were not for him I would have bled to death. But I was destined to surf again and three months later I was back surfing at Kogel Bay.” Capri notes that legislation controlling cage diving forbids diving during the summer school holidays.

“Why would they stop it if there was no possibility it could cause shark attacks?”


sign up
 
Newspaper Subscriptions
AM1234
I'm a 41 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 38 and 46.
View Profile
mystiqueZN
I'm a 29 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 27 and 45.
View Profile
Lisa_Jayne
I'm a 27 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 23 and 35.
View Profile
MustLoveDogz
I'm a 33 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 33 and 43.
View Profile
Liesie
I'm a 31 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 33 and 45.
View Profile
ThisIsTheRemix
I'm a 33 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 31 and 41.
View Profile
Roxyxxx
I'm a 43 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 43 and 50.
View Profile
Sparkie92
I'm a 22 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 22 and 29.
View Profile
AGX
I'm a 36 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 44.
View Profile
Chanex
I'm a 20 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 23 and 26.
View Profile
KissFromARose
I'm a 58 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 55 and 64.
View Profile
bluemon
I'm a 30 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 45.
View Profile
Xtine
I'm a 28 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 38.
View Profile
iamclassy
I'm a 43 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 50 and 62.
View Profile
Lady66
I'm a 48 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 47 and 55.
View Profile
Elyn1980
I'm a 34 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 42.
View Profile
Changingseasons
I'm a 44 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 42 and 50.
View Profile
Marianda
I'm a 25 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 30.
View Profile
itu22
I'm a 22 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 37.
View Profile
TenderMoments
I'm a 48 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 45 and 55.
View Profile
Stella143
I'm a 35 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 34 and 45.
View Profile
HoopvolleToekoms
I'm a 32 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 32 and 39.
View Profile
_Alwayssmiling
I'm a 30 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 41.
View Profile
sunshinebright
I'm a 55 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 45 and 60.
View Profile
AMy_303
I'm a 39 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 45.
View Profile
butterflykisses14
I'm a 30 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 31 and 51.
View Profile
LilaBlom
I'm a 23 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 23 and 33.
View Profile
Dreamseeker_64
I'm a 64 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 60 and 74.
View Profile
MonaLisa100
I'm a 45 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 40 and 52.
View Profile
LuckyCharm_440
I'm a 29 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 29 and 40.
View Profile
Gypsey4Life
I'm a 51 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 50 and 62.
View Profile
Ldp123
I'm a 43 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 44 and 58.
View Profile
Athena
I'm a 37 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 37 and 45.
View Profile
JustAnna
I'm a 39 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 55.
View Profile
Lonleyheart007
I'm a 42 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 40 and 50.
View Profile
Comet43
I'm a 43 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 40 and 54.
View Profile
BMull08
I'm a 19 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 19 and 30.
View Profile
sportliefhebber
I'm a 25 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 31.
View Profile
Diena_van_die_Eike
I'm a 49 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 49 and 62.
View Profile
LOVINGLIFE417
I'm a 45 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 43 and 50.
View Profile
00butterflygirl00
I'm a 30 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 28 and 36.
View Profile
Veronica2477
I'm a 38 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 40 and 50.
View Profile
Stiletto1
I'm a 53 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 50 and 57.
View Profile
veldmuis007
I'm a 33 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 28 and 35.
View Profile
ddb65
I'm a 49 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 50 and 60.
View Profile
pesin15
I'm a 38 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 18 and 100.
View Profile
blondgirl
I'm a 57 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 53 and 60.
View Profile
devotedlady
I'm a 43 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 43 and 55.
View Profile
thrillsandfrills
I'm a 40 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 41 and 45.
View Profile
KayBee75
I'm a 39 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 49.
View Profile
Duifie038
I'm a 45 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 36 and 50.
View Profile
molletdelvalles
I'm a 39 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 55.
View Profile
ChatRouge
I'm a 38 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 32 and 46.
View Profile
ioio
I'm a 37 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 45.
View Profile
ContagiousLaughter
I'm a 41 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 37 and 44.
View Profile
Dreamer1987
I'm a 27 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 35.
View Profile
Grace62
I'm a 33 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 33 and 42.
View Profile
lenQ313
I'm a 19 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 22 and 28.
View Profile
Lemoenbloeisel
I'm a 35 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 45.
View Profile
Sugababe
I'm a 41 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 32 and 42.
View Profile
DaffodilTulip
I'm a 48 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 40 and 50.
View Profile
Gem24
I'm a 24 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 40.
View Profile
AmaJ
I'm a 44 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 42 and 50.
View Profile
PhoenixLin
I'm a 32 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 42.
View Profile
kristella
I'm a 30 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 40.
View Profile
xine_414
I'm a 28 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 35.
View Profile
Poppielap007
I'm a 23 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 29.
View Profile
chicky582
I'm a 25 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 30.
View Profile
OneWay
I'm a 39 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 47.
View Profile
dreamsoftly
I'm a 49 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 47 and 58.
View Profile
HottFoxx
I'm a 46 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 40 and 55.
View Profile
Ninks
I'm a 36 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 36 and 42.
View Profile
lookingsexy200
I'm a 36 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 34 and 45.
View Profile
Lvit2C
I'm a 29 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 27 and 39.
View Profile
love_passionately
I'm a 43 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 45 and 55.
View Profile
Belind4_M
I'm a 19 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 19 and 30.
View Profile
Boulderhopper
I'm a 44 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 38 and 50.
View Profile
Graciousheart
I'm a 47 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 46 and 55.
View Profile
supe24
I'm a 34 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 65.
View Profile
Lulu_101
I'm a 36 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 38 and 45.
View Profile
Pretty_Nerd
I'm a 28 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 37.
View Profile
Viv42
I'm a 42 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 38 and 55.
View Profile
AngelBabe1
I'm a 27 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 39.
View Profile
twinkle87
I'm a 27 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 28 and 45.
View Profile
voelkos
I'm a 54 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 45 and 56.
View Profile
Kosmos075
I'm a 39 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 55.
View Profile
Gem31
I'm a 24 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 35.
View Profile
PearlyGem
I'm a 55 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 50 and 60.
View Profile
DelightfullyTipsy
I'm a 38 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 38.
View Profile
Smarag
I'm a 20 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 22 and 30.
View Profile
KarooBoereMeisie
I'm a 34 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 40.
View Profile
foxy583
I'm a 20 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 20 and 27.
View Profile
Charms1203
I'm a 39 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 55.
View Profile
Sosialemeis2
I'm a 28 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 35 and 46.
View Profile
Cymbidium
I'm a 47 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 47 and 60.
View Profile
KaraatPlus
I'm a 43 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 41 and 54.
View Profile
CC82
I'm a 32 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 30 and 45.
View Profile
Wonderer_0202
I'm a 42 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 40 and 52.
View Profile
JustLooking69
I'm a 56 year old woman looking to meet men between the ages of 50 and 60.
View Profile
Stressfree
I'm a 58 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 42 and 52.
View Profile
Free_Spirited
I'm a 45 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 34 and 44.
View Profile
Brad88
I'm a 52 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 45 and 60.
View Profile
Eugene053
I'm a 54 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 45.
View Profile
LoveFriendFirst123
I'm a 56 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 50 and 72.
View Profile
Carden
I'm a 32 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 24 and 30.
View Profile
Espavo
I'm a 50 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 48.
View Profile
matiekat
I'm a 66 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 18 and 100.
View Profile
Marley77
I'm a 37 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 28 and 35.
View Profile
Ben_57
I'm a 57 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 42 and 55.
View Profile
koolstoof55
I'm a 59 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 45 and 63.
View Profile
annns
I'm a 51 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 48 and 56.
View Profile
B_B_B
I'm a 43 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 18 and 45.
View Profile
skyandsand
I'm a 31 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 35.
View Profile
Glorious_Quest
I'm a 45 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 32 and 45.
View Profile
Soulsearcher72
I'm a 42 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 45.
View Profile
happymaker66
I'm a 48 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 45.
View Profile
LEO1982
I'm a 32 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 24 and 40.
View Profile
_Hens_
I'm a 34 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 28 and 35.
View Profile
sailor_X897
I'm a 54 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 60.
View Profile
audiess
I'm a 50 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 39 and 64.
View Profile
RVCZ
I'm a 24 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 18 and 24.
View Profile
TheDuke_99
I'm a 36 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 28 and 42.
View Profile
chester3
I'm a 54 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 49 and 76.
View Profile
LiveLifeAlways
I'm a 43 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 33 and 41.
View Profile
boersoekvrou14
I'm a 39 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 42.
View Profile
waitingforgodot
I'm a 68 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 53 and 60.
View Profile
BobTheExtremeBuilder
I'm a 47 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 47.
View Profile
CapeLover
I'm a 49 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 41 and 50.
View Profile
FeaturedProfile
I'm a 54 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 54.
View Profile
saks001
I'm a 61 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 47 and 59.
View Profile
Romanticseb
I'm a 59 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 45 and 57.
View Profile
cloudhopper
I'm a 56 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 45 and 55.
View Profile
Double_N
I'm a 41 year old man looking to meet men between the ages of 25 and 50.
View Profile
QuietDreamer
I'm a 34 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 29.
View Profile
GenuineJ
I'm a 64 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 48 and 64.
View Profile
DoctorSpin
I'm a 41 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 45.
View Profile
eks_joe
I'm a 52 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 48 and 53.
View Profile
Cruisingoldie
I'm a 46 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 50.
View Profile
Rumrun
I'm a 56 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 44 and 56.
View Profile
Mfactor
I'm a 41 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 40.
View Profile
MOOLMAN
I'm a 56 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 48 and 62.
View Profile
Kawa1000
I'm a 49 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 50.
View Profile
Fairtalk101
I'm a 46 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 45.
View Profile
JONGKEREL
I'm a 62 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 49 and 55.
View Profile
Dreamzzz
I'm a 48 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 45.
View Profile
letslook
I'm a 46 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 45.
View Profile
Thebestone1
I'm a 57 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 48.
View Profile
srchinluv
I'm a 52 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 46 and 65.
View Profile
TheRisingSun
I'm a 41 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 40.
View Profile
Mais_171
I'm a 49 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 55.
View Profile
IceDad66
I'm a 48 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 45.
View Profile
PerfectGentleman_700
I'm a 36 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 39.
View Profile
Summerstorm_007
I'm a 60 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 48 and 58.
View Profile
Jurgy62
I'm a 52 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 37 and 55.
View Profile
WagOngeduldig
I'm a 41 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 45.
View Profile
philip_unplugged514
I'm a 62 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 50 and 65.
View Profile
deeptime
I'm a 53 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 48 and 58.
View Profile
Boereman
I'm a 52 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 52.
View Profile
longingforu
I'm a 35 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 18 and 38.
View Profile
Rich_H
I'm a 48 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 48.
View Profile
Liefasb
I'm a 63 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 50 and 60.
View Profile
arew
I'm a 49 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 55.
View Profile
Bushbaby210
I'm a 27 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 21 and 35.
View Profile
Mark_tv
I'm a 42 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 45.
View Profile
OldGoat4400
I'm a 53 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 48.
View Profile
shadowwarrior
I'm a 59 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 38 and 55.
View Profile
niemandsland
I'm a 30 year old man looking to meet men between the ages of 28 and 40.
View Profile
Virion
I'm a 30 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 25 and 33.
View Profile
Lifechanger_7
I'm a 25 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 18 and 30.
View Profile
maybe_111
I'm a 41 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 23 and 35.
View Profile
earthwormjim1968
I'm a 46 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 38 and 52.
View Profile
drurie
I'm a 66 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 60 and 66.
View Profile
henisright
I'm a 50 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 37 and 53.
View Profile
Geard1977
I'm a 37 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 26 and 40.
View Profile
oth1982
I'm a 32 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 18 and 100.
View Profile
TheRealPeterPan
I'm a 35 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 28 and 35.
View Profile
Pete_1
I'm a 70 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 55 and 65.
View Profile
ch_nb
I'm a 28 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 18 and 45.
View Profile
Woody777
I'm a 50 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 55.
View Profile
Breukes
I'm a 35 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 26 and 35.
View Profile
umustbsomewhere
I'm a 61 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 45 and 55.
View Profile
JustCallMeBwana
I'm a 47 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 28 and 38.
View Profile
gentlebutcrazy
I'm a 58 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 55.
View Profile
Gster1
I'm a 64 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 45 and 60.
View Profile
Stream_Net
I'm a 32 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 24 and 34.
View Profile
MysticKitesurfer
I'm a 43 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 27 and 36.
View Profile
chrisdekoker
I'm a 51 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 28 and 51.
View Profile
Red_Red_Wine
I'm a 61 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 39 and 59.
View Profile
tigercat
I'm a 54 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 22 and 54.
View Profile
Rebelinbluejeans
I'm a 62 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 62.
View Profile
heartroll
I'm a 54 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 49 and 60.
View Profile
WanderingShadow
I'm a 39 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 20 and 40.
View Profile
JustJve99
I'm a 47 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 45.
View Profile
ekke_706
I'm a 50 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 40 and 55.
View Profile
cornrlius205
I'm a 46 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 30 and 50.
View Profile
David1207
I'm a 50 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 52.
View Profile
bellagio
I'm a 69 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 55 and 65.
View Profile
rossi46
I'm a 66 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 55 and 65.
View Profile
Determined_69
I'm a 45 year old man looking to meet women between the ages of 35 and 47.
View Profile

Business Directory