Opposition MPs and Parliament guests were shocked as the chairwoman of the parliamentary oversight committee on home affairs, Maggie Maunye, implied that foreigners flocking to the country were soaking up resources and preventing South Africans from enjoying their freedom.
Maunye made the remarks on Wednesday at the conclusion of a briefing of her committee by Home Affairs officials. The delegation included deputy home affairs minister Fatima Chohan, and had dealt with the issue of refugee reception centres.
Maunye suggested South Africa should turn away foreigners, as Spain had chosen to do, and questioned human rights laws and the constitution, which she said were used as an excuse to accommodate foreigners.
“Really, this intake, for how long are we going to continue with this as South Africans?” Maunye asked. “Is it not going to affect our resources, the economy of the country?”
She continued: “I think that as the portfolio committee, we need to sit down and discuss this openly; on how long are we going to continue with the intake without the support of other countries.
“You know, we see on TV Spain turning refugees back to their countries, and here you will be told of human rights laws; you know the constitution is against that and all sorts of excuses, and here we have people who are living in poverty daily, people who are unemployed.
“We’ve never enjoyed our freedom as South Africans. We got it in 1994 and we had floods and floods of refugees or undocumented people in the country, and we always want to play as if no there’s nothing like that.”
She said that apart from refugees, there were also “wrong people” who entered the country, such as the “Rwanda war criminal person… and they are all here”.
“What are we saying about them? We let all these war criminals come to the country. When we are supposed to tell them to go back, we are told that we’re violating human rights laws and all that.”
Maunye added that it was important “that we become cool-headed and sober and decide how to deal with this”.
Maunye tried to backtrack on her comments after a rebuke from the DA.
DA MP Annette Lovemore distanced herself and her party from the tirade, saying such statements were a foundation for xenophobic attacks on foreigners.
Raising a point of order, Lovemore said she was very disturbed by Maunye’s remarks and by associating “ourselves (committee members) with what you are saying”.
“That’s exactly the kind of attitude… that is causing the new wave of xenophobic attacks that is happening right now and (that) NGOs are warning is going to escalate…
“We cannot as a portfolio committee be saying that we don’t want people from outside South African borders here.”
Attempting an about-turn, Maunye said: “I am saying since 1994 we have had an influx of people coming to the country. I said documented and undocumented people, and also that it impacts on our economy.”
She referred to documents dating back to 2008 that detailed how much the country, including banks and insurance companies, were losing through corruption because of fraudulent ID documents.
“I am not saying people must not come to the country,” Maunye said.
“People must come to the country with proper documents.” – The Star
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JACK, wrote
I think we South African are just to emotional about the issue of black foreigners. I just have the following questions: 1. How many foreigners have been given RDP houses 2. How many foreigners have the opportunity of getting a professional job as the dont fall under aaee. 3. are foreigners exempt from tax 4.do foreigners get grants 5.are foreigners given food and accommodation by the government. If you are honest with yourselves guys, you will realise that they mek their own meams better than we South African who are ever complaining to be given everything for free. I have a survey on those undertaking higher degrees, i.e PhD degrees. I was shocked to realise that 70% were foreigner yet we only constitute 30%. I have changed my attitude towards foreigner. Now i am striving to perform better than them. People should have been advocating about quality education rathe than foreigners. in any case, most will return to their countries if the situation improves. Look at Zimbabwean, The just come and work, then go home leaving most of us complaining.
Patrick, wrote
Look, I am a non-South African, and have been in the country for about ten years now. I came to South Africa when the country had probably fifteen people in my kind of profession. When I was offered the job I was so reluctant to relocate to South Africa, and my biggest concern were stories I had heard about the difficulties of working with racist white South African. I was told those whites would never respect and give you the deserved recognition, no matter how capable and bright you are. It took me one full year to make my mind and come to South Africa. It turned out that when I got her, buoyant with the notion of coming to help build this beautiful country, the people I began fearing most were fellow black people, at home, on the streets and even at work. At home I became to be scared of the childcare assistant, because of all the stories I read about domestic workers being involved in the robbing and even killing their employers, and in several cases having a hand in the abduction of the very children that are left in their care. At work my fellow black employees did not see me in good light because they felt every promotion I got was at their expense; that it could have been them if I hadn’t come to South Africa. Some of them make subtle comments about eliminating unwanted competition to pave way for their promotion. I began fearing for my life. On the street it was ironic that I would be more scared of meeting fellow blacks than white people on lone streets. I get the same feeling on the Metro; I simply avoid coaches with only a few black people, and I am black! I have been seriously thinking of going back home. The problem is, the colleagues that I left there are so financially better off than I am, and I just feel so embarrassed to back to my country as a typical case of failure. I relocated to South Africa, a presumably greener pasture than my own country, and society back at home expects me be far richer than peers I left there. If only they knew the truth!
Anonymous, wrote
Why not employ all those who are jobless, to guard our borders? That way most people will be employed, or even better build GREAT WALL OF AFRICA.
derrick, wrote
maunye manyi? sounds the same but are different yet mean the same thing when they open their mouths, its either the whites own too much, the indians bargain their way to the top, the coloureds are over concentrated or the foreigners are taking over their resources, when everyone is the problem tells me you are the problem - making excuses about everything expecting a handout! All these leaders and the people who voted them in have been used to 60 years of giving, giving giving the time ended in 94 now they get nothing because of the ANC not the previous government, so they lash out at whites, coloureds, indians and now their own kind. Lets see if the BBC will make world headlines when they show how black on black violence is 1000 times worse than the NP or apartheid regime, i never saw one white ever put a tyre around a black & burn them, nor just set them a light, yet i see blacks doing this often in the last four years in SA, now we know who the real racists are.
Anonymous, wrote
I have no doubt that SA govt' was in sincer intation to have a lasting solution for the question-problem of the refugeeimmigrants in South Africa, hence invested, elected and entrusted a committe for this matter. South Africa is part of global communtiy thus cannot overlook the international laws and standards. Maunye would first and formost learn how to separate immigrant and war criminals, then illegal and legal immigrant and then refugees, rights and obligations. I would seem like immigrant defending the South African's jobs or resource robbed or else, but the fact is, it is the immigrant that builds nations whether it is America, middle-east, africa, or Asia. Your Parliamant remarks is as if " a terminally and contagious sick person asked to be a treat Pateints ". Ms Maunye you can not help SA govt' about Xenophobia while you have an element of Xenophobia in your blood..
Anonymous, wrote
the alikening of War criminals and proper "Refugee" are part of the ignorance within those trusted to produce positive results to the problems and challanges that South Africa is facing. It seems that your Boses did not clearified you the truth of the result needed from you, you really wasted a more resource, but i doubt no energy. An immigrant nation like America is the best and most prosprous nation in the world, ask them how they make it... to speak like that in Parliamant is shame recorded
Realist, wrote
If the Governemnt had not protected mugabe and had forced him to have free and fair elections Zimbabwe's economy would not have imploded. This would not have let in 4 million immigrants. I am not xenophobic but our country is struggling to support our own population we cannot be host to illegal immigrants. I have no problem with honest immigrants who come to SA to start businesses and thus create jobs. But I do have a problem with our governement not controlling our borders and corrupt home affairs selling citizenship to Nigerian drug smugglers, European mafia bosses, Mozambique and Zimbabwean armed gangs, Chinese rhino horn and abalone smugglers, Pakistani terrorists etc.
Anonymous, wrote
Home Affairs must change their current policies on this matter. Surely we South Africans cannot afford to become a welfare case for the rest of the world without concentrating on our own people who are jobless and live in severe poverty !! Charity starts at home and other countries must get their own houses in order to prevent people from migrating.It is for this very reason why Spain and Italy are sending the migrants back to where they come from because they cannot accommodate all those migrants as there are numerous reasons like jobs poor economic times, housing, social, health etc. This issue needs good planning and fair policies and the proper controlling of our borders.
Anonymous, wrote
before 1994 we had south african umkhonto we sizwe neighbours in Zimbabwe who had fled the violence in south africa, izandla ziyagezana, where is your ubuntu? take out the illegals and the criminals and its not like all foreigners dont contribute to the economy. lets work together to find a way forward.
kuvha, wrote
maunye you are very right a lot of people enter the country illegal.they rob our banks,killing innocent people.raping women and children.they sell drugs to our people and forcing our young girls to prosititutions practice.this tendency need to be stoped.south africa should go back to the basics.we cant chase people away but those who enter our country should have proper documentations.
Anonymous, wrote
Well said Maunye. We can no longer ignore that. Our people need to enjoy their freedom. There is lots of crime being committed by these people. Ms Lovemore stays in the suburbs and do not have to fight for the resources with these foreigners. I am sure she is one of the people that choose to employ them than our people. Employers prefer them as they are cheap and have no unions so they abuse them.
The Watcher, wrote
Yes True you have people living in poverty but what is the percentage of those that you want to turn away are the skill that has helped this country? yes turn away those with no skill that just want to add to the poverty and take those who bring with them skill to add to development...
aNON, wrote
anc govt in 1994 welcomed all africans to come to SA, what they did not know is that some were hard working, some criminals and some despots. thanks to anc invitation we have them all. what is still worse is that out anc govt rallies behind the despots of africa and here i mention mugabbe and gadaffi as examples. there are other criminals given refuge here with the blessing of the govt. as far as xenophobia is concerned our brothers and sisters should not forget the strife those foreigners went thru in their own countries which led them to comming here. the criminals find a haven here because our saps and justice system is so corrupt. foor for thought?
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