mdk Pray, tell me who owns the Wingfield land?

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@ me wah Actually the USA opened its markets to a subsidised Chinese industrialization - yep. And the Afrikaner socialism created jobs for whites with subsidised bonds and low cost land. During the Afrikaner reign the whites took all the land we are talking about which was not already and still owned by the Dutch Royal Family (not the people of Holland mind you) and UK 'landed gentry' (like almost all you can see north and east from Koeberg interchange, with f***ing binoculars. It is time to debate who the 'us' are when talking about South Africans.

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@Anon 'moving north' crit - your argument (the numbers are skewed) therefore limits the total 'haves' in Cape Town sometime in the future. The unhealthy (we have one of the world's highest TB rates) swamp aka Cape Flats is already relatively high density. So maybe you think we should practice a form of eugenics now because you are, when push comes to shove, afraid of an unknown future when you will probably be dead in any event? Now if you were really honest with yourself, if these people were poor whites from the platteland squatting in auto wrecks, maybe you would send them to Bellville or Goodwood or Blouberg?

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oh wah wah. Keep begging for free stuff and free handouts from privileged people. That's really how you improve your life. Keep on begging. Do you suppose that that's how every first-world country got rich? By begging? Don't go on about colonialism blah blah. The real answer is the industrial revolution. First-world countries were filthy and dirt-poor during the colonial era. It's only the industrial revolution that took them out of poverty. Look at china. Did they go around begging and saying it's their right to have free stuff? No. They got up and started industries.

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+1 plenty of land availible. And i've had to work from selling sweets and flipping burgers from the age of 15 til 25 when I bought it. My parents walked the streets selling sandwidges to put me through school, so nope, i never came from the priviladged class.

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I must agree with previous comment... Sure you have the right to a house Ricardo as do I for that matter. The fact is that I have to work for my house whilst you feel it is your right to get a house from government. Sure my income is higher than yours but there seems to be a disconnect between rights and responsibilities. Too many guys demanding houses and too few willing to do their bit in achieving their dreams, however difficult it may seem. Buying a house is difficult for the average man, but you need to be willing to keep at it to achieve that goal. Our country will go nowhere if we keep entertaining this mentality... I have a lot of "poor" friends that have worked very hard to get their own house instead of waiting on handouts. If you depend on government to make your life better, prepare to wait a long time. Do away with entitlement, it is an ugly disease in the new South Africa

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@Anonymous regarding moving north of the N1.Think about this: let's say there are 4.5 million people in Cape Town. Let's also say there are 3.5 million people forming part of the 'poor masses' and there are enough houses for say 1 million 'feudal whites' in total. After the first say 1.5 million of the 'poor masses' expropriated all the land the remaining 2 million of the 'poor masses' will come and burn your houses down because they were left in the cold... this is what is slowly happening in the ANC because there is always a tomorrow and you will lose tomorrow what you won in battle today.

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I got an idea, lets set off a few kilo of uranium on each site.... Maybe then they can “work” in order to god damn live like the rest of the world! I fully believe the time must come, they must decide if we as a world community must kill them off in the evolutionary process in order to ascertain a respectable future for those blackscoloreds AND whites who live in poverty. Yes I said whites, no one seems to ever mention that there whites living in townships, the media only gives the idea that blacks live there! Now THAT is racist! Like Michelle said, and to give further proof, I have seen rentals for between 500-1000 rand a month so it isn't like there isn't a choice, they have the choice, the just would rather spend the money on drugsalcohol and then feel entitled to propertyland because they don't want to work for it. Ungrateful idiots! Look at Michelle who posted! Single mother and still can afford to pay for daughters AND accommodation. Are you telling me married couples or single childless adults can't do the same?

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I think that the DA has adopted a racist position in the Western Cape to probably try and attract those who prefer the old Racist SA which oppressed black people to come and enjoy a walk down memory lane in 'Apartheid Style'. The open toilets, the violence against blacks and forced removals shows that they are being punished for voting ANC. Those blacks who support and kiss up to the DA in that Province are selling their own black people out just like they did in Apartheid. The old racists who were hiding in the NP are now hiding in the DA and their atrocious actions are showing. Every human has a right to clean air, water, food, clthing and shelter: they're not asking for much - just basics. I support the poor people who are fighting for their basic rights. Voting is not freedom. These people aren't free. The current black government has allowed this economic oppression and abuse to flourish and turn a blind eye to the DA's cruelty of the poor oppressed black people in the Western Cape.

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@Anonymous regarding moving north of the N1. Yes, there was white domination in the past but the problem is no longer that. There is a new problem: OVERPOPULATION and in that problem, ultimately in future, not today, there will be no winners. The ANC preach they fight for the poor and yet when a high ranking ANC official gets the chance heshe buy the best of the best that way surpasses the average middle class person, often regarded to as 'Whites'. The 'poor masses' seem to have trouble managing money because if they did manage it correctly they would practise better family planning.

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Whatever is happening at Youngsfield and Wingfield? The military is not willing to give these up without millions in return.

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I am a single mother that pays half of my salary just to put a roof over me and my daughters head and I am often left with nothing for life's little luxuries. I have no other source of income other than my own salary yet I am able to keep us both out of someone's backyard and in proper housing other than a shack. Why can they not do the same? At 5am when I get ready for work people of our community are all still sleeping off the effects of the night before's party! Ashamed to be coloured.

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Yes it is your right to buy a house, look at property24 or something. Lotsa houses available.

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Prawns!

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Ricardo, it is also your "human right" to get a job and pay for your own house. We truly do live in the age of entitlement!

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This is little more than a concentration camp where people get dumped. The DA has installed coloured and black officials to steer the issue away from patent racism. There is no shortage of land north of the N1 but it is held by landed gentry. Expropriate this land. The idea of 'willing buyer willing seller' is what bankrupted Western banks and was a cute device to perpetuate white group area and 'feudal' possession. The ANC will probably get the necessary support now to change this 'trick' - do it.

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